We Now Know Why They Hate Us
(Lee Corso and Kirk Herbstreit are really just a symptom of the problem.)
Look. I'm not gonna argue or say that the Trojans couldn't have kicked some major butt in a playoff system. It's what I want to see personally; I've been an advocate of the 16-team playoff (11 conference champs, five at-larges) for a while now, and I think you could give our pie pieces to everyone, with Florida having the most this season as BCS champion. I can't wait for the thing to be blown up.
But I've accepted the fact that USC wasn't gonna sniff the Mythical National Championship after a bad first half in Corvallis that led to the sole loss of the season, considering that USC was the only elite team in a conference stacked with mediocrity (although that's 5-0 mediocrity in bowl games, mind you) and two complete abominations in U-Dub and Wazzu.
This is why watching the post-BCS talk shows and hearing Four-Letter talking heads like Lee Corso continually repeat that USC is the best in the country is so darn frustrating: because I know that those kind of analysts piss other fans off, and rightfully so. Really, they are not helping matters at all.
It's a flawed system, but Pete Carroll and the squad had every chance to take advantage of it by not playing a bad game on Thursday night. We didn't do it, and were stuck with the whims of the Coaches' Poll and Harris voters, along with the computers, who had our strength of schedule very low, and it didn't work to our advantage. Such is life, but it's really way too late.
So let it go, analysts -- the Trojans were very, very good, but no quite good enough. To suggest as much is an insult to Florida, who won the BCS trophy, and particularly to Utah, a school with a real complaint on its hands more than a week after the fact.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Conquest Chronicles' writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Conquest Chronicles' writers or editors.
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The probelm in that game was playing on a thursday something I don't think they have ever done!
Who in the heck scheduled this game that’s an east coast ESPN thing we are the West coast. Was this Garrett trying to get exposure, because if it was we don’t need it. We just should have played on sat. and keep it real, if Garrett wants to play up to ESPN than he should move there.
To all , I am not bitter but when I saw we were playing on thursday that week I said WHAT IS THIS!
END result not prepare mentally to play and LOSS, the only way USC or west coast team gets to NC is being Undefeated, heck utah goes 13-0 What-up
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on
Jan 13, 2009 4:06 AM PST
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do not know what Garrett was thinking on scheduling
ESPN comes to us more often than not by virtue of the Trojans’ ranking every year. We don’t need the Pac-10 to ink a contract with them; if they want a game on a Saturday, they’ll broadcast it, even if it’s only regionally.
USC is honestly the last team that I would have thought to see on a Thursday night. That’s for programs that need prime-time exposure.
by Signal to Noise on
Jan 13, 2009 7:56 AM PST
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Trojans played ASU on Thanksgiving night, a Thursday and blew them out in 2007
by frak on
Jan 13, 2009 9:46 AM PST
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Thanks frak I thought it happen before!
But the difference is what: The fact that it was at the end of Nov.(our best month the last 8yrs); next that it was ASU and game highlited for Pac-10 champ; and last that we probably didn’t have a bunch of byes in front of it, another reason for non-consistant play. Byes are good here and there but this season schedule was totally strange.
When your strange no one remembers your name!
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on
Jan 13, 2009 10:28 AM PST
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I agree
I knew we didn’t have much of a shot what with the national perception of our conference being at an all time low and in the end I was fine with it.
While I enjoyed a little of the love we got with the big first half lead, I felt that when we let PSU sort of back into it in the second half that it had invalidated any remaining shot we had at discussion for a split.
But the talking heads won’t stop. It sucks because it causes everyone to hate us and gives some of our fans stupid talking points, but what can we do? Aside from remain humble and do our best to represent the university not much I guess.
You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.
by bluemax on
Jan 13, 2009 11:21 AM PST
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I guess
Humble and USC goes together like poop in a bowl of spaghetti.
by hval14 on
Jan 13, 2009 3:59 PM PST
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Its the new 2002+ fairweather fans who need a humility injection
I sat through the Hackett years, and JR2. I know humility well.
by frak on
Jan 13, 2009 9:02 PM PST
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that is probably the best thing to remember.
It was only a decade ago that ucla was on the verge of a national championship and USC was nothing in football.
While we can think of the MNCs that could have come along barring those losses over the past couple years, it’s much better to look at the success and the barren period that came before it and be happy about it.
by Signal to Noise on
Jan 13, 2009 10:17 PM PST
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Be Careful
Watch out dude. If this was BN, Nester would ban you for that crap.
by WE ARE SC on
Jan 14, 2009 10:13 AM PST
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Hey what about that Virus (malware) that infected my computer?
You guys at WE are sc owe me $129 bucks
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on
Jan 14, 2009 11:03 PM PST
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Wow, some of you guys are pitiful ...
waaaahhhh, people hate us … waaaaahhhhh, I don’t like it when people are pissed off at us …. waaaahhhh, I hate it when ESPN analysts think we’re the best team in the country ….
Seriously?! Who the hell cares what other people think? Frankly, I love it when other people hate us. I think it’s awesome — you know why? Because people don’t hate teams that suck. People hate teams that are really, really good. I love it when analysts say that USC is the best team in the country … whether it’s true or not is completely irrelevant … it makes for good debate.
But the real point is this … I’m a USC fan — and who loves us or hates us doesn’t mean a damn thing. If winning titles, or coming real close, makes other fans around the country hate us, GOOD! I hope every single fan out there hates my friggin’ USC-lovin’ guts. Screw ’em.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
by Vacafan on
Jan 14, 2009 5:26 PM PST
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Take it easy...
some people have opposing views…no one is “pitiful” for having an opinion…
by Paragon SC on
Jan 14, 2009 6:47 PM PST
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You're right ...
I mean “pitiful” in the … “I can’t believe you just shanked an extra point … that’s pitiful” sense. Paragon, you’re a tad too sensitive.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
by Vacafan on
Jan 14, 2009 8:41 PM PST
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Hmmm....
Well, if you participated more here on CC than your profile shows you might have some credibility.
Your comments are really no different than a drive by flame when you bring nothing of substance.
I don’t need or want that here…
I thought S2N’s post was spot on. SC is pimped too much for the wrong reasons instead of having balanced coverage.
by Paragon SC on
Jan 15, 2009 3:53 AM PST
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I'm not looking for credibility ..
seriously, “credibility” for what? A blog? I’m afraid we’ve turned blogging into some sort of intellectual exercise, when all it is is a forum for positing viewpoints — it’s supposed to be fun — an arena in which one can be free with comments (non-offensive) and stir things up a bit. If my “pitiful” comment was offensive, than my apologies — wow.
My point is this — be happy that SC is “pimped” period. Why would you be upset that favorable comments are being made about USC? That just makes no sense to me. Again, sports is about entertainment and fun. If people in Alabama get mad because they feel USC gets too much “cred” on ESPN, what’s the harm? Please tell me how that effects us somehow … what, do people come by your house and shout obscenities at your family? Do they tag your house? I’m just curious why some would be upset that people “hate us”. It’s sports!! Stop taking it personally.
And back to the “sensitivity” subject Paragon … what “you should want here” is fun banter. This isn’t life or death … like I said, a tad too sensitive.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
by Vacafan on
Jan 15, 2009 10:34 AM PST
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Paragon tends to make sure people dont come here primarily to start flame wars.
If you don’t have a point, or an argument, then you probably should go somewhere else.
by frak on
Jan 15, 2009 9:09 PM PST
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My "point" is
I’m still waiting for someone to tell my why we should be upset that opposing fans “hate” USC because people say nice things about us.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
by Vacafan on
Jan 15, 2009 10:41 PM PST
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Good point
I really don’t care what anyone thinks of us. Maybe it makes the target on our backs a bit bigger. Maybe teams like Oregon State and Stanford don’t pay asw much attention to us if the press doesn’t build us up as unbeatable.
by frak on
Jan 15, 2009 11:01 PM PST
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And here is where you missed the point...
’m still waiting for someone to tell my why we should be upset that opposing fans "hate" USC
Read it again…its not about what the fans think its about the “analysts”
The analysts have influence and when they over hype a backlash can occur.
by Paragon SC on
Jan 16, 2009 2:23 AM PST
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Wait a sec ...
This is why watching the post-BCS talk shows and hearing Four-Letter talking heads like Lee Corso continually repeat that USC is the best in the country is so darn frustrating: because I know that those kind of analysts piss other fans off, and rightfully so. Really, they are not helping matters at all.
Yes, Signal to Noise wrote his post criticizing the analysts — but unless I’m missing something, the main reason he’s upset is because they “piss other fans off, and rightfully so.” The reason he’s upset about the analysts is because they anger fans of other teams … is this not correct?
Again, I’m waiting for you or Signal to explain to me how this is a “bad” thing … you meniton “backlash” above … what does that mean?? Why should we care that other fans are “pissed off”?! I know you know this Paragon … people hate USC because they’re good. Period. Just like I hated the Cowboys when I was a kid … just like lots of people hated the Patriots last year … why people hate on the Celtics and/or Lakers … it’s just a fact — that’s how sports works. It almost seems as if Signal thinks other fans would “like us” if it weren’t for those darn announcers.
I just think it sounds kind of “whiney” — almost scared. Heaven forbid some guy in Georgia or Florida or Ohio “hates” USC. I don’t get it, and I’d love for you or Signal to explain it, that’s all.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
by Vacafan on
Jan 16, 2009 8:53 AM PST
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Simply, if it can influnce the fans...
then it can influence the voters…you know the ones that don’t even watch the games, the ones that lobby for each other behind the scenes because there is no transparency in regards to how they vote (until the last ballot).
a one-loss SC was punished throughout the season for Corvallis, yet they win a game (Cal?) and then drop 2 spots in the BCS?
Right….makes sense to me!
by Paragon SC on
Jan 16, 2009 10:00 AM PST
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a lot of it is about impartiality.
We should care because the overhype influences the voters, and feeds into a very, very poor system. I don’t mind people hating USC because the program is regularly on top of the Pac-10 as of late. That’s part of college football.
Where my objection comes in is the general hype train that comes now after the football team has lost a game it probably should not have, and when it is on the outside of the BCS looking in (thanks to conference strength or other perceptions), that the program is touted as one that got wrongly exempted from the current system.
Florida fans deal with the same dislike because many of those same analysts slurp Tim Tebow to death.
by Signal to Noise on
Jan 18, 2009 8:45 PM PST
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