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Brand wants a two-year rule

Just saw this over on SI.com.

"My own view is there is an advantage to the one-and-done rule that's not often recognized, and it's similar to the kind of issues you face in the football Play It Smart approach. Namely, if a young man understands that in order to be eligible for the NBA Draft, he's going to have to go to college for a year and that means he's got to be admitted to college and eligible for college and he can't blow off high school."

He still doesn’t get it. 

A lot of these kids could care less about an education. Brandon Jennings just thumbed his nose at the NCAA by signing in Italy, so you could make it a 3-year rule and it wouldn’t matter, at least to him. I agree with Brand’s position which he stated right after the Mayo story broke that you can’t pay players but until he finds a way to negotiate with the NBA to protect his players eligibility from scumbag agents who knowingly break the rules he will always be in a position of weakness.

David Stern could step up as well by making the rule 2 or 3 years if for nothing more to protect his future product. Until he works hand in hand with Brand and the NCAA its only going to get worse and the overall product will suffer.

 

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So was it worth it?

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Has the worst graduation rates compared to all other NCAA sports. Its an ongoing problem that only the NBA can remedy. I think a 3 year rule would be beneficial to all parties. The NCAA gets some consistency in the teams that they field, and the NBA gets more time to evaluate prospects. Not to mention that a player coming off 3 years of college ball will more likely be able to see playing time right away after making it to the NBA.

by frak on Jul 26, 2008 7:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Having 2 or 3 year rules would not make the players take school more seriously or help them graduate, but a 4 year rule might increase graduation rates. But if a four year or how ever many year rule is implemented, high school players would be up in arms and probably skip college and go to overseas to get paid for doing something they love. Why would they spend X amount of years playing for free in college while their respective universities rake in millions of dollars when they could get paid to play in Europe?

by sharpie20 on Jul 26, 2008 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say let them go

I really don’t care if a high school player wants to leave the country to play basketball. I’m just sick of the “1 and done” guys. If they want the national exposure that comes from playing big time college ball, then let them make a commitment to the program that spans longer than 4-5 months.

by frak on Jul 27, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

All those one-and-done guys are a slap in the face to a college’s basketball program. Coaches spend so much effort trying to recruit these guys, and when they finally arrive on campus they are treated like royalty. When everything seems to be in place for a serious title run, they bolt to the pros. So now title contenders don’t have guys who are committed and dedicated to winning titles for the long haul. Do you really think someone like Love or Rose would have stayed another year for a shot at the title on teams that had very realistic chances of winning the championship while forgoing that multi-million dollar contract?

I think one way to remedy this problem is to recruit guys who maybe aren’t top-10 guys and who aren’t quite good enough to make it in the pro ranks after one year but will make immediate contributions for a college basketball team as a freshman.

by sharpie20 on Jul 27, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who Knows???

Man oh man, I really think you are damned if you do damned if you don’t. It seems like its really hard to tell how extending the college stay to two or three years will impact college basketball and the NBA as a whole. It can’t really be compared to CFB as there just isn’t a worldwide market for football like there is for basketball. Although I think it is the worst possible out come, hopefully we won’t be seeing a mass exodus of US talent overseas!

by Laughing Stock on Jul 26, 2008 9:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It really doesn't matter

I have been around the Basketball scene since to 70’s and the overall attitude has totally changed because of agents and runners. Most of the guys I have played with or know were geared to go to college get a degree and hope to get drafted. Now it is all about the money and it doesn’t have anything to do with the love of the game. But it all comes down to the NBA and not really the NCAA because if the NBA says you can’t play without a degree then they will go to college otherwise it is a crapshoot.

by so.cal.native1952 on Jul 27, 2008 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The NBA has been declining

The money attitude that has governed professional sports has diluted the product to the crappy thing it is today. If you look at NBA basketball back in the 80s and early 90s you can see a steady decline in people playing defense, and players hitting an open jump shot.. It drives me nuts that a team full of professionals got their asses handed to them in international play. College ball was necessary to build really great NBA players. The only exceptions to the rule being LeBron James. I wouldn’t count Kobe because he went through some growing pains in the beginning.

by frak on Jul 28, 2008 8:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Looking back

Before the owners got together to lobby David Stern regarding drafting players out of high school, there were a few player busts. Moses Malone, Darryl Dawkins, KG, Kobe, and only a handful of others were truly the only players that came out of high school that ACTUALLY paid dividends to their owners as far as championships and team revenue was concerned. And much like the “salary-cap”, which stipulates (loosely) “please, help us from ourselves. make it so that WE CAN’T over-spend and become insanely profligate with our money/assets by pouring ridiculous amounts of money on players who might not pan out in the long run”. The salary-cap and the one-and-done rules are almost one and the same. To help the owners from being foolish. There is nothing that can empirically bears out any altruistic intent on behalf of players or young players with either of them. It is a brainwashing that unfortunately has most in the media and the general public as it’s believers.

Go back to the way it was. Before the unbroken wheel tried to get fixed.

By the way frak, lackadaisackal international play by the previous 3 Olympic teams had nothing to do with an open jump shot. And certainly nothing to do with “fundamentals” (I just love it when old-school cats knock new-school play?)- it had everything to do with USA Basketball not being able to field a complete team with actual international warm-up games up and until a few months before actual Olympic play. As well as the fact that Lithuanians, Germans, Greeks, Spanish, Argentinean, Italian, even Puerto Rican players are 100 TIMES BETTER THAN THOSE SAME PLAYERS FROM a decade ago (from each respective country that I’ve mentioned). The gap between international players and American players is now a measurably slight gap, as opposed to the original 1988 Dream Team that DOMINATED.

This Olympic USA basketball team has been jelling for almost 2 years, with more than 10 international warm-ups, AND they have Coach K. It’s THE TEAM, not the jump shot or the back door pass.

by BixBeiderbecke on Jul 28, 2008 2:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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