Money talks and BS walks.

Being in the health care industry I have learned that if you have the money you get the best care. Remember one thing that many people die awaiting transplants because there isn’t a suitable match, unfortunate but true.

The bigger problem at ucla med. ctr. is the lack of privacy in regards to peoples medical records. Thats a travesty.

everyone who goes to, teaches at, or works for UCLA is corrupt (and potentially both moronic and arrogant). That’s how we’re supposed to connect the dots when these things surface, right?

It’s Yakuza not Akuza

And I also thought to post it up and write about what I thought regarding all this. Then I thought, “Hey, this isn’t sport related” and so. . . .

Way to go dude. Like Def90, these dots would be so easy to connect and go “Menelaus” on fucla, but. . . .? They’re retards to the 10th power over at BN, wouldn’t wanna go there. (seems it’s kinda crowded down at the slime-empyrean, besides- it’s a requirement to wear a silly sweatshirt down there too. not happening)

How can those at BN look at themselves in a mirror and still elicit a smile? It’s a mystery wrapped in a conundrum.

There is little similarity in the mission of a Major State University teaching hospital and the openly for-profit plastic surgery "surgicenters," hair removal/replacement "institutes" and lasik "eye centers." It is appalling that UCLA wants to muck around in that world; they have entered an ethical minefield.

Consider the family of a kid that died in a motorcycle accident: How would they feel to know their boy’s gift of life was wasted on a foreign gangster? Were they informed that this could happen? Does it make it right that the recipient paid full freight in-cash and made a big donation to UCLA? Did the surgeon receive any favors or payments when he traveled to the gangster’s home country? The questions are endless, and the damage to the credibility of the transplant system will be far-reaching; meaning more people will die waiting for an organ donor. Are they just names on a list? What say the BN and their list maker Menelaus?

Goto had been prohibited from entering this country before his transplant, but the FBI agreed to help him get a visa in exchange for information on potentially illegal activities in the United States by Japanese gangs, commonly known as yakuza, a former FBI official said. Goto provided little information of use, he said.

There is no evidence that UCLA or Busuttil knew at the time of the surgeries that any of the patients had a criminal record or ties to the yakuza. Both said in statements earlier this week that they do not make moral judgments about patients and treat them based on their medical need.

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Dr. Joseph Tector, chief of transplant at the Clarian Transplant Institute at Indiana University, defended UCLA’s actions. The occupations of his patients are not relevant, he said.

“As doctors, you are not a member of the clergy to ascertain someone’s worthiness,” he said. “You don’t want to discriminate. These calls don’t come so much into questions with other procedures. But with livers, the water is muddied because not everyone can get transplants. There aren’t enough livers. “

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Boska, who said he is a friend of Busuttil, added: “I have lost faith in the system, not the program,” he said.

If a member of a gang is shot in south central, and he is taken in an ambulance to USC Medical Center, I would hope that physicians on call there would do everything in their power to save his life.

As for the implication that the American health system is flawed- I am just shocked. That is an astonishing revelation.

There’s a BIG difference in pints of blood and donated livers. American wannabe’s are one thing, international crime figures are entirely something else!

Astonishing, indeed.

I go away for one day and…

let make a few things clear here 102.

1) If you think that this this wouldn’t get play on BN if the tables were turned then you are walking around blind without a cane. I know of a couple of instances where non sports related issues involving SC were discussed over there. Don’t be naive.

2) I’m not sure what your background is but I can tell you that in my 25 years in the medical industry I have seen the best and worst that doctors and institutions have to offer. I don’t know what the reasons were that made this particular patient move up the list but its not the first time it has happened. there were a number of questions raised about why the great Mickey Mantle received a liver when it came out later he had other medical issues that should have removed him from the list.

As for what’s discussed here on CC, I give my readers the latitude to post topics that they see fit. as long as there are no personal attacks then I’m cool…

Surprise, surprise! Calls for objectivity from BN.

It’s all from the same article
There are two sides to every story. You posted one, and I posted the other.
And it’s all from the same article too. If you were concerned about “spin,” maybe you shouldn’t have picked out just the part that suited your point and presented it as the full story.
by SuperBruinMan on Jun 1, 2008 9:29 PM PDT

Embellishing the Bush/Mayo allegations or criticizing the Toledo era is good-natured ribbing. No one is going to die over this. However, it is my argument that perpetuating this type of criticism, that a person’s donation of an organ might go to a Japanese crime lord therefore causing a drop in the amount of donations, is somewhat serious. Just for the sake of slagging UCLA?
by Bruins 102 NCAA on Jun 2, 2009 11:07 PM PDT

Yes, there are two sides to every story. Unfortunately the vindictive BN mentality never allows that premise when it comes to news stories involving USC. As noted by Paragon, BN has never missed an opportunity to accuse USC in terms so villainous, that no one could characterize them as "friendly ribbing."

It is astonishing 102, that you are willing to contend that criticizing UCLA in this forum is going to result in a decrease in organ donations. Perhaps the transplant team should have considered that possibility before moving not one, but four cash wielding "foreign nationals" (to put it kindly) to the front of the list. Since this news story has already landed the investigative reporter in protective custody, you’d think it’s the press that is out there "slagging" UCLA.

Talking about ucla’s medical program in a sports blog seems a bit petty. Yes they have issues, but I personally don’t give a rip because in the context of sports, it means nothing. Trying to expose ucla as less than a perfect institution is not hard to do. Let’s rise above this kind of mud-slinging.

Petty? Agreed. But it still is a point of fact, it is news. People have varying degrees of what humors them. We may or may not understand each others pleasure derived from others (“sanctimony”) misfortune? This is all what it is.

On the other hand, when challenged on “what amuses me” a certain way (this Dumont-UCLA/Tadamasa Goto transplant) . . . . . .well, that to me, is just as off-base and petty.

Things will happen (misfortune) on both sides of this aisle. Like what was originally conveyed (albeit, through the myopic lens of a Dave Mason song- “We Just Disagree”), we CAN and WILL rise above all this, but we’ll have a little fun- IN PEACE and preferably with some semblance of tact and decorum- if such things are allowed.

Hey 102- you heard it right here, right now:

First off, welcome to Conquest Chronicles! Glad to have you aboard.
2ndly- there ARE matters worth delving into, apart from the Dumont-UCLA Transplant Center. (you’re right!)
And lastly, because I will not attempt to sling something your way, I will only reply to your “SPINNING, etc.” post with this:

You have a good point, and with merit I might add, on the “living donor” premise you proposed. The rest of what you wrote, well. . .let’s not go there. As far as the “living donor” premise, , it would seem to me to be the only real plausible explanation in this situation, from a UCLA perspective. Granted, the chances are very very slim it is the case- hey! we BOTH don’t know?- it still may very well have some possibilities.

Sorry to cut the engagement short, it is what it is. We’re all gonna get interested in “Garrett and Compliance issues” as it applies to USC. Wanna join?