GameDay Open Thread USC @ UCLA
USC Trojans at UCLA Bruins, Dec 6, 2008 1:30 PM PST

Lots of story lines today…
Carroll vs. Chow…
Sarkisian vs. Walker – Both could be on their way out to head coaching jobs, are either distracted?
USC wears their home jerseys to the Rose Bowl restoring an old tradition.
Is the USC defense that good? Can they keep the bruins under14 points? How about a shutout?
How will the offense fare against a decent bruin defense?
So, there are lots of questions and a lot of scenarios to be played out today and trip to the Rose Bowl on the line. The bruins will play for pride and because this is a rivalry.
I would like to think that SC can put a bruisin’ on the guys but you never know in a rivalry game.
Leave your comments questions and rants here. I will be online for the thread.
Lets Smoke ‘Em!!
FIGHT ON!
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Go Bruins!
(from a Beavers fan)
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Dec 6, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions
I've had a bad feeling about this game all day
I was hoping I was wrong. SC has ~50 minutes to show me one way or the other.
wow and I tought his hand was over line
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 2:12 PM PST reply actions
Griffen is so talented
why is he such a screw up?
I guess ucla needs a 12ft receiver
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 2:15 PM PST reply actions
Hey Paragon sorry about comments on other post
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 2:17 PM PST reply actions
love ya brother
And what about that play WWWOW
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 2:18 PM PST reply actions
Sanchez
osm’t playing like he’s worried about Sarkasian leaving.
Pretty solid so far. Liked the way he threw the ball away on the bad McKnight route.
jeez Rey
Hey, Rey, we know you want a kill and we appreciate it — but hold up when it’s important, OK?
They took him out good maybe he will think about it
I saw the contact coming but only the other guy held up
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 2:25 PM PST reply actions
throwing
Eventually we’re gonna make Craft have to make a few plays. There’s only so much ucla can get on the ground.
could dee get first safety
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 2:41 PM PST reply actions
Ucla lucky again 58 was tracking pass
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 2:43 PM PST reply actions
I'll bet he has fubber on toe of shoe
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 2:45 PM PST reply actions
so
what the hell is going on here…..?
14-7, shouldn’t this be an ass-kicking?
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!
oh
i guess I get that.
we should have killed Colorado but struggled with them.
Still. Evil should be beaten down.
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!
I never buy into the spread with this game
It can always be close no matter how unmatched the teams are talent-wise. 2006 taught us a lot.
by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
hahahaaha
Ricky looks sad. That’s why I watch this game.
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!
slick rick torment is doubly fun for me.
because I lived in Colorado when he sent that program down the rabbit hole. (Barnett only finished what he started.)
by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
score
here and this game should be over.
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!
Where to people come up with these names?
Alterraun?
by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
his parents have to be star wars fans
no other way around that one. missed on the spelling, but still cool.
by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
I'm still confused
by the draw play on first down (on the series that lead to the roughing the kicker)
maybe it looked like his hand
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 2:56 PM PST reply actions
don’t know what they’ve been doing to coach him up, but it’s been working. Haven’t looked at the numbers, but early in the season it looked like they were using him for a lot of first down slant routes where he was getting up for the ball before the secondary had drawn a bead on him… anyway, glad to see he’s getting more work in different down / distance situations.
okay
that should be the game.
I hate the roughing the passer calls, though. it is football. Running quarterbacks don’t get near that latitude.
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!
not game yet...
I want to take Schiano’s approach the other night against L’ville…keep the foot on the throat!
I know we're really thin at FB right now
So I thought maybe he would get to play today
by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Well we didn't time to run ball at all
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 3:14 PM PST reply actions
Buehler is looking like he wants to play at FSU
just kidding
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 3:16 PM PST reply actions
21-7 after a half isn't bad.
but not where we need to be. defense is encouraging as usual, minus the silly penalties.
Yeap
Defense doing their thing…
Offense doing above avearge but it could have been better.
TWO missed FG’s by Buehler…Go figure. Thats a big deal in my eyes.
of course
but the onus is on ucla to push down the field first.
by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
heh
my parents were print people before they got into tv journalism. you’d be amazed how many times i have to re-write scripts because of $50 word usage when i need a 50 cent one.
by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
have to be careful
you wouldn’t want to assume any intelligence on the part of the audience / insult the audience by making them feel stupid.
I admit we treat people like children
but then again, considering the people who rant at us, they act like them sometimes.
c’est la vie.
by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Over in the ESS-EEE-SEE... 17 all
I guess Flordia isn’t such hot shit when they have to play a defense with a pulse
bama wears teams down.
long as they keep the ball on the ground it’s out of tebow’s hands.
by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
half-time chit chat
Craig James is impressed with the UCLA defense, which suggest he hasn’t been watching a lot of Pac 10 if this is news to him. Flutie breaks ESPN on ABC rules and states the obvious – USC is not an MNC team on offense, and you pretty much need that execution on both sides of the ball.
I just want to see SC stay steady in the second half – I have to think that UCLA’s going to break a decent play on offense here.
I don't Understand That
Why isn’t USC an MNC team on offense? No one had any trouble putting Ohio State in the championship game when they averaged fewer than 400 yards per game. If USC isn’t an MNC offense then Alabama sure as hell isn’t either.
by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
Did you see them against
Kentucky, Mississippi, LSU, or Tulane? They messed up plenty.
by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
Alabama has a philosophy, I think
I’m not sure USC’s figured what this offense is better at yet. Sark and Pete haven’t quite established outside of the pro-set plays, “this is what we are” with Sanchez under center yet.
by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
There just plain stupid
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 3:35 PM PST reply actions
Key stat to me
Haven’t been able to watch the whole game – but I saw that SC is averaging 7.1 yards a play on offense to UCLA’s 2.3 – or at least until Sanchez was getting home run calls on the last series. Note to Sark – just keep plugging away and try and score another 2 – 3 touchdowns as insurance against the inevitable brain farts.
more of that, Mark
I really think this may be a passing team; they have good backs of all stripes, but it’s really about Sanchez and his arm. But then again, I’ve been confused about the offense all year.
Turner's time to step up
Damian was having a really good game.
by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
GO MARK.
diving for it. that’s ballsy, pure football right there. and you get a helmet to helmet hit call.
Ehhh
I don’t know about that call, but its good for us I guess
by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
that's Pac-10 officiating
darn near the worst in the nation. some SEC crews are in the running too.
by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Now the D
needs to end the regular season by scoring some points!
3 personal fouls on ucla, all against Sanchez
I mean
24-20, sorry flippping back and forth so I don’t miss SC
by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
Joe looks ready to break one.
I just wish he wouldn’t run backward a couple yards trying to avoid the tackle
so get this over at BN
they saying to pound on Mark and hope to knock him out Niceeeeeeeeeeeee attitudes over there. They really aren’t following their team, didn’t mention 1st down or anything and they are sayiny abc is ball washing
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 3:55 PM PST reply actions
what do you mean by screen shot
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Buehler's gonna have to put in some work
Every kicker has an AWFUL day like that every so often. it’s a good thing it’s a three-touchdown lead right now.
well
if you’re kicking a whole lot of XPs and FGs in chip shot range, it’s kind of tough to adjust. At least he’s got a few weeks in between if SC pulls it out.
by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Why is it that all these annoucers think Taylor is 6-3 230, hes 6-4 240
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 4:17 PM PST reply actions
Will be very curious to see if Darryl Clark
also keeps his cool against y’alls dee. he’s been known to lose it.
pax et amor
please stop with the USC MNC talk
it’s not happening. it just isn’t. stop talking about it, Mike and Todd.
Whats with #3
everytime he tackles someone he stands over player and rants
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 4:25 PM PST reply actions
That's half of a good game
I’ve enjoyed what I’ve seen of Florida since they had that loss. Sound football.
gonna be sick if it's OU
Oklahoma stands a better chance against Florida than Texas does, IMHO. They just score more quickly.
by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Now their saying at BN they want their dee to break Marks leg, so much class
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 4:35 PM PST reply actions
from what I read about Arkansan boosters last year
I might not be surprised if it were a Mustain family agenda….
pax et amor
just a joke
no flaming agenda from me, just (apparently lame) humor
is it always this stuffy in here?
pax et amor
easy...
I have read some things over on BSD when people take shots at JoPa…we defend our guys just like you do
Fair enough
I’m treading softly. Thanks for allowing me so far…..
Congrats on the win over your crosstown rivals.
pax et amor
Not a great second half
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 4:45 PM PST reply actions
The funny thing is watching RN talk to the QB, like he was a great one.
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 4:47 PM PST reply actions
better than Craft
At some point, you can’t blame His Coachness for getting pissed when the same problems keep happening over and over again.
Sort of like those oddball sideline passes on 3rd and long at our own 30…
oh lord
Went to SC undergrad, graduated in 92. Originally from Scotland, but grew up mostly in Holland and southern California. Been in the DC area for about 11 years now.
wow, that's a cool history
DC’s a diverse place for a diverse cat to land.
Do you go back out for Rose Bowls? I’m finally over our loss to Iowa and now am very excited to fly out to Pasadena.
pax et amor
Not usually, to be honest
Mostly my friends get hold of tickets at the last minute if they get them at all, so it’s hard to plan around. If I had the cash, I’d take the whole family and spend new year’s with friends, but that’s not looking likely this year.
be back in a month, Pasadena!
I don’t care how many times you go in a row. Rose Bowl never gets boring. And Penn-State-USC will be the best post-season game in that stadium since the MNC game in 2005.
yes indeed
If both teams play to their strengths, it’s going to be a real hard-fought chess match kind of a game.
Some final Stats
First Downs – USC 32, UCLA 7
Total Yards – USC 478, UCLA 157
And, this is the one that’s atypical for us:
Penalties / Yards – USC 7/55, UCLA 11/117
That last one isn’t surprising for all the shitty hits from the Bruins D as the game wore on, but when was the last time we had less than half the penalty yards of the opposing team?
Holy crap
7 first downs. Clearly, a victory cannot be had that way. Here’s hoping we can bring a little more O to the table than the bruins did.
pax et amor
For what it's worth
That’s 3 more first downs and 66 more yards on offense than Notre Dame managed.
UCLA’s strength this season was on defense, but the defense can only do so much. There’s no doubt in my mind that Penn State will prove much harder to deal with.
It's not worth much ;)
I’ll take the genius of Neuheisel paired with a shaky qb like Craft, over the genius of Weis paired with an emu like Clausen ;)
Our Oline is much better than ucla’s, that’s for sure. Still….well, we shall see…why. they play. the game, right?
pax et amor
Absolutely
I’m looking forward to it – nothing like starting the new year with a Rose Bowl game. I would have been completely all right with an at-large bid for something new, but who’d complain about New Year’s Day in Pasadena?
Cool, man
Maybe I’ll see you out around town tonight and not know it!
Thanks for chatting with this Lions fan. I suspect we’ll learn more and more about each other’s teams these next couple of weeks.
Congrats on the win and the Pac 10 Championship! Later!
pax et amor
I'll tell you this much
You’ll not see me tonight – I’m holding down the fort while the missus is out shopping – that’s the price of a 4 day work trip and then planting myself in front of the tv today ; )
But more importantly – thanks for stopping by, looking forward to some back and forth though January 1, and congrats again to the Nittany Lions for winning the Big 10!
BTW
My key mistake on that trip was saying something about calling it an early night on Thursday and then answering the phone at 11.30 from a casino. You’d think I’d know better.
Niceeeeeee. remember caller ID
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
I'm jealous of anyone who will be in Pasadena
I would have had a field pass for the Rose Bowl but I already had plane tickets to go back home to Minnesota.
by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
I know you had a few and that chick accross the room ( you say if I wasn't married) phone rang and didn't look.
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 7, 2008 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll tell you this much: there is no piece of ass worth the cost of dealing with a divorce and separate households in the DC area.
Yah I understand, I was just kidding
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 8, 2008 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
Congratulations
You guys just have a better team and they are well-coached. No surprise that you guys kept the Victory Bell. About what I expected; I did predict 27-3. You guys have a great defense and with our personnel at QB and on the OL, no way were were we going to have a chance unless we played a very good and mostly mistake-free game. Well, we did OK on the turnovers, but Gawd, that roughing the kicker penalty, the stupid personal fouls (although IMHO two were very questionable) and too-conservative play calling on O sank the ship. I though we could slow you guys down on D, and we did OK, but no O at all. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Zero.
Another great season for USC, another lost season for UCLA. But this time, unlike the past five years, I have something I didn’t have before, even after 13-9, and that’s hope.
Good luck against Penn State. See ya in Pauley Pavilion.
Very gracious
I think the UCLA defense did about as good a job as they could have, notwithstanding some of the late personal fouls when things were getting a bit out of hand. They really need a functioning offense though.
As for seeing us in Pauley Pavilion, it’s easy to be hospitable when the odds are on your side ; ) But nonetheless, see you there.
Lovin' it!
Just got back from the game. Those guys were cracking each other! The stadium was pumped, but you could hear a lot of stuff going on down there.
Ucla D was solid. They played way better than I thought they would. Sanchez had a decent game, the Ucla D came at him time and again. Sark’s playcalling was unlike anything we’ve seen this year, except for the Virginia game. I was happy for Sark, and I am happy for him if he goes on to greener pastures.
The Bell is ours for another year!
Hello Penn State and JoPa! (now they’ve got a pretty good defense too. PC and one month? I’m diggin’ it)
"I was INVERTED!" -Maverick in Top Gun

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