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USC Trojans at UCLA Bruins, Dec 6, 2008 1:30 PM PST


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USC Trojans
@ UCLA Bruins

Saturday, Dec 6, 2008, 1:30 PM PST
Rose Bowl

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Lots of story lines today…

Carroll vs. Chow…

Sarkisian vs. Walker – Both could be on their way out to head coaching jobs, are either distracted?

USC wears their home jerseys to the Rose Bowl restoring an old tradition.

Is the USC defense that good? Can they keep the bruins under14 points? How about a shutout?

How will the offense fare against a decent bruin defense?

So, there are lots of questions and a lot of scenarios to be played out today and trip to the Rose Bowl on the line. The bruins will play for pride and because this is a rivalry.

I would like to think that SC can put a bruisin’ on the guys but you never know in a rivalry game.

Leave your comments questions and rants here. I will be online for the thread.

Lets Smoke ‘Em!!

FIGHT ON!

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nothing there for RoJo

Sark is a deer in the headlights not running it

by Paragon SC on Dec 6, 2008 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

TOUCHDOWN!!!

Williams!!

he has Norris’ number right now

by Paragon SC on Dec 6, 2008 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

love ya brother

And what about that play WWWOW

Paul D. Kelley

by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

Sanchez

osm’t playing like he’s worried about Sarkasian leaving.
Pretty solid so far. Liked the way he threw the ball away on the bad McKnight route.

by warchild13 on Dec 6, 2008 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

YES

Let’s go Trojans. Mark Sanchez is playing out of his mind

by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

jeez Rey

Hey, Rey, we know you want a kill and we appreciate it — but hold up when it’s important, OK?

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions  

throwing

Eventually we’re gonna make Craft have to make a few plays. There’s only so much ucla can get on the ground.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 2:27 PM PST reply actions  

holding

heh. it’s the only way they can keep the D-line off ’em.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 2:29 PM PST reply actions  

so

what the hell is going on here…..?

14-7, shouldn’t this be an ass-kicking?

Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!

by Jon Johnston on Dec 6, 2008 2:47 PM PST reply actions  

oh

i guess I get that.

we should have killed Colorado but struggled with them.

Still. Evil should be beaten down.

Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!

by Jon Johnston on Dec 6, 2008 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

WHY WHY WHY?

Why is it always a handoff to McKnight on 3rd and long?

by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 2:51 PM PST reply actions  

now Sark runs it...

get the first and it could have been a back breaker

by Paragon SC on Dec 6, 2008 2:51 PM PST reply actions  

hahahaaha

Ricky looks sad. That’s why I watch this game.

Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!

by Jon Johnston on Dec 6, 2008 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

slick rick torment is doubly fun for me.

because I lived in Colorado when he sent that program down the rabbit hole. (Barnett only finished what he started.)

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

score

here and this game should be over.

Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!

by Jon Johnston on Dec 6, 2008 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

I'm still confused

by the draw play on first down (on the series that lead to the roughing the kicker)

by warchild13 on Dec 6, 2008 2:55 PM PST reply actions  

OH ....almost Joe

he almost broke it but they get the first down!

by Paragon SC on Dec 6, 2008 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

I know I have said it before

but PT is a totally different guy from last year.

by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

don’t know what they’ve been doing to coach him up, but it’s been working. Haven’t looked at the numbers, but early in the season it looked like they were using him for a lot of first down slant routes where he was getting up for the ball before the secondary had drawn a bead on him… anyway, glad to see he’s getting more work in different down / distance situations.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

1st down by Turner...

he had some pressure as well roughing the passer too

by Paragon SC on Dec 6, 2008 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

okay

that should be the game.

I hate the roughing the passer calls, though. it is football. Running quarterbacks don’t get near that latitude.

Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!

by Jon Johnston on Dec 6, 2008 3:04 PM PST reply actions  

not game yet...

I want to take Schiano’s approach the other night against L’ville…keep the foot on the throat!

by Paragon SC on Dec 6, 2008 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Over in SEC-land

Apparently Tebow majors in family, youth, and community sciences. What?

by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

21-7 after a half isn't bad.

but not where we need to be. defense is encouraging as usual, minus the silly penalties.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

Yeap

Defense doing their thing…

Offense doing above avearge but it could have been better.

TWO missed FG’s by Buehler…Go figure. Thats a big deal in my eyes.

by Paragon SC on Dec 6, 2008 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

of course

but the onus is on ucla to push down the field first.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

onus?

Are you sure you work in television with fancy-pants vocabulary like that?

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

heh

my parents were print people before they got into tv journalism. you’d be amazed how many times i have to re-write scripts because of $50 word usage when i need a 50 cent one.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

have to be careful

you wouldn’t want to assume any intelligence on the part of the audience / insult the audience by making them feel stupid.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I admit we treat people like children

but then again, considering the people who rant at us, they act like them sometimes.

c’est la vie.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Over in the ESS-EEE-SEE... 17 all

I guess Flordia isn’t such hot shit when they have to play a defense with a pulse

by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 3:23 PM PST reply actions  

bama wears teams down.

long as they keep the ball on the ground it’s out of tebow’s hands.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm, running the ball to control the clock. You’d think that’s an idea that could be applied elsewhere… but where?

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

half-time chit chat

Craig James is impressed with the UCLA defense, which suggest he hasn’t been watching a lot of Pac 10 if this is news to him. Flutie breaks ESPN on ABC rules and states the obvious – USC is not an MNC team on offense, and you pretty much need that execution on both sides of the ball.

I just want to see SC stay steady in the second half – I have to think that UCLA’s going to break a decent play on offense here.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 3:31 PM PST reply actions  

I don't Understand That

Why isn’t USC an MNC team on offense? No one had any trouble putting Ohio State in the championship game when they averaged fewer than 400 yards per game. If USC isn’t an MNC offense then Alabama sure as hell isn’t either.

by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Alabama looks more consistent on making slow progress – SC’s all over the map.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you see them against

Kentucky, Mississippi, LSU, or Tulane? They messed up plenty.

by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Alabama has a philosophy, I think

I’m not sure USC’s figured what this offense is better at yet. Sark and Pete haven’t quite established outside of the pro-set plays, “this is what we are” with Sanchez under center yet.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

they blow with the wind

Whatever they saw last, that’s the best.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 3:33 PM PST reply actions  

Key stat to me

Haven’t been able to watch the whole game – but I saw that SC is averaging 7.1 yards a play on offense to UCLA’s 2.3 – or at least until Sanchez was getting home run calls on the last series. Note to Sark – just keep plugging away and try and score another 2 – 3 touchdowns as insurance against the inevitable brain farts.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

more of that, Mark

I really think this may be a passing team; they have good backs of all stripes, but it’s really about Sanchez and his arm. But then again, I’ve been confused about the offense all year.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:41 PM PST reply actions  

GO MARK.

diving for it. that’s ballsy, pure football right there. and you get a helmet to helmet hit call.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:42 PM PST reply actions  

Ehhh

I don’t know about that call, but its good for us I guess

by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

that's Pac-10 officiating

darn near the worst in the nation. some SEC crews are in the running too.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Now the D

needs to end the regular season by scoring some points!
3 personal fouls on ucla, all against Sanchez

by warchild13 on Dec 6, 2008 3:47 PM PST reply actions  

I mean

24-20, sorry flippping back and forth so I don’t miss SC

by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Joe looks ready to break one.

I just wish he wouldn’t run backward a couple yards trying to avoid the tackle

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:54 PM PST reply actions  

didn't think I'd type this today

I’m glad to see McKnight back. He’s doing well

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 3:54 PM PST reply actions  

so get this over at BN

they saying to pound on Mark and hope to knock him out Niceeeeeeeeeeeee attitudes over there. They really aren’t following their team, didn’t mention 1st down or anything and they are sayiny abc is ball washing

Paul D. Kelley

by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 3:55 PM PST reply actions  

no surprise

it’s not like much else is working for them.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

hit him right in the hands

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2008 3:55 PM PST reply actions  

they are laying wood on Sanchez

that last one was legal, but man, it looks like that hurt.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 3:55 PM PST reply actions  

damage control

subbing QBs like that, it’s just as well that all that went wrong was punting.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

False Start

The defense is really in the bruins’ heads

by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 3:59 PM PST reply actions  

Craft

He’s craftless
he gets shutdown
He’s craftless
he gets thrown to the ground

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2008 4:02 PM PST reply actions  

ha!

now that’s kicking it old school

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

urgh

thank goodness Sloan didn’t catch that

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

WOW! easy Mark!

what was that?

gettiing a little excited

by Paragon SC on Dec 6, 2008 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

Dudes

Next time just go for it – you’re not helping Buehler or the team at this point

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:11 PM PST reply actions  

Buehler's gonna have to put in some work

Every kicker has an AWFUL day like that every so often. it’s a good thing it’s a three-touchdown lead right now.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

well

if you’re kicking a whole lot of XPs and FGs in chip shot range, it’s kind of tough to adjust. At least he’s got a few weeks in between if SC pulls it out.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

WOW!!

he missed that one too!

These guys should have been put away a while ago…

by Paragon SC on Dec 6, 2008 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

Seriously – there’s still plenty of scope for disaster.

(It’s being so cheerful that gets me through the day…)

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

please stop with the USC MNC talk

it’s not happening. it just isn’t. stop talking about it, Mike and Todd.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 4:21 PM PST reply actions  

to be wishy-washy

I like them all, although McKnight’s trickeration drives me mad sometimes.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s hard to go wrong with these guys most games – getting the coaching staff to let them get a rhythm is sometimes the problem.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Man oh man

Ausberry is below Travon on the depth chart? What happened to that guy?

by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 4:25 PM PST reply actions  

Whats with #3

everytime he tackles someone he stands over player and rants

Paul D. Kelley

by so.cal.native1952 on Dec 6, 2008 4:25 PM PST reply actions  

I love it that went for it

over on downs…better than a punt.

thats a good call by PC

by Paragon SC on Dec 6, 2008 4:28 PM PST reply actions  

That's half of a good game

I’ve enjoyed what I’ve seen of Florida since they had that loss. Sound football.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

gonna be sick if it's OU

Oklahoma stands a better chance against Florida than Texas does, IMHO. They just score more quickly.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok

how many unnecessary hits is sanchez after in this game?

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2008 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

you'd almost think

that they were trying to fuck us up for the Rose Bowl against your guys ; )

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

from what I read about Arkansan boosters last year

I might not be surprised if it were a Mustain family agenda….

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2008 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

true, he has been a good player off-field especially.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

just a joke

no flaming agenda from me, just (apparently lame) humor

is it always this stuffy in here?

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2008 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

easy...

I have read some things over on BSD when people take shots at JoPa…we defend our guys just like you do

by Paragon SC on Dec 6, 2008 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough

I’m treading softly. Thanks for allowing me so far…..

Congrats on the win over your crosstown rivals.

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2008 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t speak for anyone else but I like to kick it middle-age style.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

ha!

Nah, they’d need someone for Mitch to throw to. If he was in, the Bruins would be trying to level him too!

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

And yet it’s not getting them much, is it? They’re getting more mileage out of – Norris, is it? – with the real talent.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

agree with todd

Why is he still in there?

Is there a margin of victory agenda here?

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2008 4:38 PM PST reply actions  

Rey didn't buy that

two years ago he’d have fallen for it

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:44 PM PST reply actions  

dammit

Rey nearly had a very nice pick there

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:45 PM PST reply actions  

better than Craft

At some point, you can’t blame His Coachness for getting pissed when the same problems keep happening over and over again.

Sort of like those oddball sideline passes on 3rd and long at our own 30…

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

I like the two possible interpretations of that question:

1. ‘like he (Craft) was a great one’
2. ‘like he (Neuheisel) was a great one.’

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2008 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

and it ends

Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

All right,

Now we can talk about Penn State

by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

Careful!

JtotheP is just waiting for some bulletin board material ; )

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

tee hee hee

DC Trojan, are you really in DC? I am.

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2008 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Just outside city limits

But when I picked the name, I was living in the city

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotcha

how long you been a trojan fan? are you originally a west coaster?

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2008 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

oh lord

Went to SC undergrad, graduated in 92. Originally from Scotland, but grew up mostly in Holland and southern California. Been in the DC area for about 11 years now.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

wow, that's a cool history

DC’s a diverse place for a diverse cat to land.

Do you go back out for Rose Bowls? I’m finally over our loss to Iowa and now am very excited to fly out to Pasadena.

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2008 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Not usually, to be honest

Mostly my friends get hold of tickets at the last minute if they get them at all, so it’s hard to plan around. If I had the cash, I’d take the whole family and spend new year’s with friends, but that’s not looking likely this year.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

be back in a month, Pasadena!

I don’t care how many times you go in a row. Rose Bowl never gets boring. And Penn-State-USC will be the best post-season game in that stadium since the MNC game in 2005.

by Signal to Noise on Dec 6, 2008 4:54 PM PST reply actions  

yes indeed

If both teams play to their strengths, it’s going to be a real hard-fought chess match kind of a game.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Some final Stats

First Downs – USC 32, UCLA 7
Total Yards – USC 478, UCLA 157

And, this is the one that’s atypical for us:

Penalties / Yards – USC 7/55, UCLA 11/117

That last one isn’t surprising for all the shitty hits from the Bruins D as the game wore on, but when was the last time we had less than half the penalty yards of the opposing team?

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

Holy crap

7 first downs. Clearly, a victory cannot be had that way. Here’s hoping we can bring a little more O to the table than the bruins did.

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2008 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

For what it's worth

That’s 3 more first downs and 66 more yards on offense than Notre Dame managed.

UCLA’s strength this season was on defense, but the defense can only do so much. There’s no doubt in my mind that Penn State will prove much harder to deal with.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not worth much ;)

I’ll take the genius of Neuheisel paired with a shaky qb like Craft, over the genius of Weis paired with an emu like Clausen ;)

Our Oline is much better than ucla’s, that’s for sure. Still….well, we shall see…why. they play. the game, right?

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2008 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely

I’m looking forward to it – nothing like starting the new year with a Rose Bowl game. I would have been completely all right with an at-large bid for something new, but who’d complain about New Year’s Day in Pasadena?

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Cool, man

Maybe I’ll see you out around town tonight and not know it!

Thanks for chatting with this Lions fan. I suspect we’ll learn more and more about each other’s teams these next couple of weeks.

Congrats on the win and the Pac 10 Championship! Later!

pax et amor

by jtothep on Dec 6, 2008 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll tell you this much

You’ll not see me tonight – I’m holding down the fort while the missus is out shopping – that’s the price of a 4 day work trip and then planting myself in front of the tv today ; )

But more importantly – thanks for stopping by, looking forward to some back and forth though January 1, and congrats again to the Nittany Lions for winning the Big 10!

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW

My key mistake on that trip was saying something about calling it an early night on Thursday and then answering the phone at 11.30 from a casino. You’d think I’d know better.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm jealous of anyone who will be in Pasadena

I would have had a field pass for the Rose Bowl but I already had plane tickets to go back home to Minnesota.

by Laughing Stock on Dec 6, 2008 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Congratulations

You guys just have a better team and they are well-coached. No surprise that you guys kept the Victory Bell. About what I expected; I did predict 27-3. You guys have a great defense and with our personnel at QB and on the OL, no way were were we going to have a chance unless we played a very good and mostly mistake-free game. Well, we did OK on the turnovers, but Gawd, that roughing the kicker penalty, the stupid personal fouls (although IMHO two were very questionable) and too-conservative play calling on O sank the ship. I though we could slow you guys down on D, and we did OK, but no O at all. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Zero.

Another great season for USC, another lost season for UCLA. But this time, unlike the past five years, I have something I didn’t have before, even after 13-9, and that’s hope.

Good luck against Penn State. See ya in Pauley Pavilion.

by ucladj89 on Dec 6, 2008 6:00 PM PST reply actions  

Very gracious

I think the UCLA defense did about as good a job as they could have, notwithstanding some of the late personal fouls when things were getting a bit out of hand. They really need a functioning offense though.

As for seeing us in Pauley Pavilion, it’s easy to be hospitable when the odds are on your side ; ) But nonetheless, see you there.

by DC Trojan on Dec 6, 2008 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Lovin' it!

Just got back from the game. Those guys were cracking each other! The stadium was pumped, but you could hear a lot of stuff going on down there.

Ucla D was solid. They played way better than I thought they would. Sanchez had a decent game, the Ucla D came at him time and again. Sark’s playcalling was unlike anything we’ve seen this year, except for the Virginia game. I was happy for Sark, and I am happy for him if he goes on to greener pastures.

The Bell is ours for another year!

Hello Penn State and JoPa! (now they’ve got a pretty good defense too. PC and one month? I’m diggin’ it)

"I was INVERTED!" -Maverick in Top Gun

by BixBeiderbecke on Dec 6, 2008 7:18 PM PST reply actions  

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