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Broderic Green to Transfer

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Family issues have led to Broderick Green telling coaches he intends to transfer.

Green told Trojan coaches of his plans late this past week.

Green's appeared in six games this season, carrying the ball 32 times for 168 yards and three touchdowns.

Green, a former four-star recruit from the Pulaski Academy in Little Rock, Ark., chose USC over Ohio State, Penn State, Arkansas and Tulsa.

After having a breakout game by rushing for two touchdowns and 121 yards on 18 carries during the Trojans' 69-0 win at Washington State, Green did not carry the ball against Arizona and rushed just five times in USC's 56-0 win over Washington.

Can't say I am really surprised but I am not buying this family thing either.

Adam Maya over at the OCR has some interesting observations as well.

Face it, he never fit in here, and not because he isn’t good enough. It was just bad timing. Some have likened him to LenDale White (I don’t see it), but remember that when White arrived it was just him, Reggie Bush and Hershel Dennis. Then Dennis’s career was derailed by a suspension and several injuries, opening the door for both White and Bush to thrive. They really weren’t competing at the position as much as they were sharing it. Compare that to four years later with Green, who is sharing the position with a Real World-sized cast of five-star recruits, and he is the biggest outsider.

My last encounter with Green was right after the Washington State game when he rushed for 121 yards, easily a career high. For the first (and now it appears only) time at USC, he was approached by most every reporter in the locker room. His smile that night extended to Little Rock. I was happy for him, but also bothered by the scene because I knew it would be fleeting. And I knew he didn’t know that. It’s hard to see such a thing when you’re the one going through the experience. All I had to do was consider McKnight would be returning from injury the following week and Arizona would probably give USC a game, meaning no Broderick.

That Tuesday, he was still being interviewed about his big day and he was still excited to talk about it. At the time it all seemed poisonous. Three weeks later he has barely played since and will reportedly transfer. This is USC, 2008.

That is really dead on..The kid wants to play pure and simple and it is not going to happen here.

Even with Green's great game against Washington St. he just hasn't broken through the depth chart at running back. I don't know why that is and I am not sure if there is anyone to blame but it would seem to me that having all these RB's in the stable has actually been a burden on the offense more than it has helped. As Maya also notes in this article, does anyone really think that this offense is unpredictable because of of all these backs? I would say no and again that comes down to coaching...pick a back and stick with him!

I would not be surprised if Green isn't the only one to move on...

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If they are going to pass

Problem, to many good backs and yes I respect him for his wanting to transfer. Next could be Mc fumble, Tyler is really the best back along with johnson then gable. That is just my look into it, I sure there are a lot of different looks. Now maybe coachs will understand game and start running more on 1st and 2nd downs early in game. As it is this team because of offense can’t seem to get consistent, don’t deserve to play for NC.

Paul D. Kelley

by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 9, 2008 11:19 AM PST reply actions  

From the same post: Maya has even better observations
I cannot remember a more misleading 411 yards of offense. The 17 points against Cal marked the second time in three weeks the Trojans were held to that total. This at a program where, the year before a certain offensive coordinator took over, the team scored at least 20 points in each game … for five consecutive years!!!

I won’t use the P-word but something isn’t right when everyone in the press box, we who know so little about football, often know when USC is going to run simply by the down and which running back (and receivers) is in the game. I thought part of the idea of having so many backs is that it makes your offense unpredictable. (Yes, it’s the coveted U-word.)

by Zoulou on Nov 9, 2008 11:29 AM PST reply actions  

The thing we don't do enough of

is run plays to hide our tendencies. If we come out in a certain formation or package we always run the type of play the other team expects. An example would be throwing out stacked run formation or running out of a 4 WR set.

There are so few designed pass plays to any RB who isn’t Havili or McKnight, meaning that whenever Johnson or Gable are in it indicates most likely a run.

We used to be so much better at disguising our tendencies.

Also I think Bradford is the next to go, and possibly Tyler.

You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.

by bluemax on Nov 10, 2008 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Excellent comments!

Hey Zoulou, long time no comments! I think I speak for everyone here on CC- we miss you man. (gearing up for the upcoming b-ball season, eh?)

So, is it that Coaches Sarkisian, McNair, and Carroll can’t seem to nail down some innovative X’s and O’s for the r-backs? Since 2006, I’ve been kinda railing against the play calling from our sidelines. It didn’t matter whether it was Booty, Sanchez, or whomever- the playcalling has been abysmal.

I think it has something to do with “balance”. It seems to be the operative word/phrasing that Coaches Carroll and Sark love to speak about. As far as I’m concerned. . . .F_CK BALANCE! Get the ball to the hot runners, to the best hands, and DOMINATE!

And godamm (I said it!), pick #‘s 1 through 3 at running back, stick with a 2 TE rotation, utilize Havili and McKnight in better disguised packages, and LET THE REST OF THE 5- AND 4-STAR PLAYERS that they won’t see the field unless the #1 and #2’s mess-up miserably or get injured (God forbid).

Create a playbook that’s less predictable, less rigid, and make this game FUN AGAIN! Like it used to be. With a young line and our badass tight ends, we should be running off tackle more, utilizing the screen more- thereby sucking the LB’s into a lull where a TE can get a nice catch/TD downfield at a later time, and getting the ball to Havili and McKnight on draws, screens, end arounds or bootlegs. Our O-line likes running the ball. So RUN!

Sark and Coach Carroll haven’t been paying attention to the rhythm and beat of our games since Oregon State. They’ve been playing so that the defense gets us good field position, but then they muck it up retarded play calling. Our red zone play calling has been sweet, but just getting there has been the bane of our offensive existence.

Again, f_ck balance. Get it to Damian, get it to PT, give it to Stafon, hand it to CJ, dink it to Havili, shotgun it to McKnight. Something. Just f_ck balance and let the stats be what they’ll be at the end of games. Win and dominate.

Nice bluemax. Real nice. And Zoulou- I liked your comments in the game thread regarding McKnight. I think you’re right, he’s got Harvin-designed plays written all over him. He just needs better hands. RoJo can use some of that Harvin-esque utilizations too, no?

"Surround yourself with people who can't live without football" - 1st tenet of 3 for Bear Bryant's 3 Rules of Coaching . . . . .

by BixBeiderbecke on Nov 10, 2008 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Bix

For me it has gotten to the point that I want to watch the DEE instead of the Offense, because there is no offense. Heck I seen better plays in a sandlot game!

Paul D. Kelley

by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 11, 2008 6:34 AM PST up reply actions  

F-in funny so.cal. . . . .

Yeah, but. . . .on a side note, it looks like Sark finally got part of the picture we’ve been painting here. 2nd half adjustments (RUNNING THE DAMN BALL) for the Stanford game allowed us to dominate and win.

Or not. (but still, GO FIGURE?)

"Oh, would you look at that! You see, I just checked. . . .and it's true. I'm out of nerves for you to try to get on. There'll be NO MORE talkin', feel me?" words I woke up saying coming out of a trip-ass dream the other night. -Bix

by BixBeiderbecke on Nov 17, 2008 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Can't blame him.

I was emailing back and forth about this game last night, and I finally worked out how to put it succinctly: SC could win games where the only time they threw the ball was to the official after a play. We have that kind of depth at running back. So are we using it? No. And we’re not making especially good use of the wide receivers either.

So, since Green’s not getting the playing time, he should feel free to go. It’s one thing to claim that SC’s backups get drafted anyway, but starting once a season isn’t going to get you there. And he’s good, too good to sit and watch while the coaches attempt to run McKnight up the middle – again – and end up with 3rd & 8.

I’ve seen this run-run-pass-punt scheme before. Not a fan.

by DC Trojan on Nov 9, 2008 12:05 PM PST reply actions  

just to comment on the 'how to break in to playing time thing'

in the modern pro-set ‘west coast’ style offense (which sc runs part of) the running backs really have to know the entire play book, all the run blocking, pass blocking, and blitz coverage schemes in order to really be able to be an ‘every down back’. Even with sc’s tendencies to simplify the playbook for certain sets of players, one must know more than ‘run to this hole’ and ‘pass block’.

My observations of kids from the south (not from texas and not A-Am kids), based on ones who moved to CA in highschool (where my wife was teaching) is that they mostly have not been taught how to think for themselves. some can read, some can do math, many can play ball, few can think. Perhaps he’s now realized that he can’t learn the full offense like he would need to in order to play in the Pac10. Skills or no skills, the Pac10 game is more like the progame than any other conference.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Nov 10, 2008 10:30 PM PST reply actions  

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